still doesn't change anything I mean, sometimes sitting on top of the highest ground you can find and waiting for a tank to roll into view, is not the best way to deal with a tank.

you are limiting yourself, tankers love av like you.


while you are denying the area, he's rolling over your team elsewhere.

And I also managed to survive 2 Swarms and a Forge Gun beating down on me the entire match numerous times before 1.7.

You clearly sucked at tanking.

exactly. the amount of bullshit tankers went through before 1.8 is more than AV will ever have to deal with.

When you run a 2 million ISK dropsuit that gets 2HK'D by a 70,000 ISK weapon, come talk to me. Until then, stfu. You are a sell out and a fotm-er. At least tankers had character.

And those 'bad pilots' you're blowing up are newberries, former AV (like yourself), and FOTMers who rocked duvolles last build.

To my knowledge, the best Madrugar fitting was

1x F/45 Damage Control Peripheral
1x NOS Module
2x Carapace Armor Hardeners
1x 180 Plate
1x Passive Armor Hardener

I never tried using 3 active armor plates, but I doubt it would have done much with the stacking penalties,

Im pretty sure they weren't MLT weapons, but I can't confirm the tier of the items. However, you'd be very hard-pressed to take what I said seriously, or what you said seriously simply because of all of the factors that were left out.

• What modules was the enemy tank running?
• How long did it take to solo the vehicle?
• Was the vehicle pilot experienced?
• What were the conditions that the vehicle pilot was under?
• Where was the vehicle destroyed?
• etc, etc, etc.

Basically, the point is that simply because it's possible, doesn't make it balanced nor realistic.

A scout can (and has) pulled off scores such as 45/2
Does this mean that Scout // Light Frames are fine?
Should Scouts just "learn how to Scout?"

A tanker has gone 55/ in 1.6
Did this mean that HAVs were fine?
Should tankers have simply "learned how to tank?"

An Assault Dropship pilot managed to transport troops, get a good amount of kills, and without dying once.
Did this mean that Dropships were fine?
Should Dropship pilots have simply "learned how to fly?"

If you answered different;y to any of these questions, then you need help.

If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, then Uprising 1.6 was balanced and your a hypocritical scrub.

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I didn't know what hardeners were? Good God. Is there a tanker out there who doesn't twist my words to their advantage?
My Exact words to Ken, is:



How he got "I don't know what a hardener is" from that is beyond me. I even have screenshots of my HAV fits from before 1.7 that clearly show hardeners fitted onto them.

Railguns are so OP they can be avoided by strafing around the target, dropships can use afterburners to outmaneuver it's tracking speed, two Ion Cannons can pop a Particle Cannon, another railtank can easily 3- shot them, a strategically placed dropship can avoid and dodge them. yup tanks definitely OP.

Remote & Proximity Explosives? Really? Get Better.